Did I buy Apple to late (2K loss to date)? A look at their upcoming earnings
When I bought Apple (AAPL) stock a few weeks ago for $187 ($16K in total) before the launch of the 3G iPhone, I was pretty confident about the prospects for the stock. I expected some short term volatility as it is a growth stock, but since my purchase it has fallen steadily to close at about $165 at the close of trading this week. So a loss of nearly $2,000 in less than a month. Even though it is a paper loss, it hurts. It also makes me wish I had waited to buy, but my research and to some extent market hype surronding stock, made me pull the buy trigger when I did. In a recent note to investors, Piper Jaffray analyst Gene Munster estimated sales of Mac computers rose 33 percent from a year ago, more than double the growth rate of the overall PC market. Munster said he also expected iPod units sold in the quarter to top estimates, but said that unit sales wouldn't translate directly to revenue growth due to price cuts in the quarter. The analyst rates Apple "Buy" with a $250 price target. (Yahoo! Finance)
I am going to hold on though, even as they report their fiscal third quarter earnings on Monday. Historically their stock price has been quite volatile around earnings and could easily shoot up or down 10% after the announcement. The consensus analyst expectation is a profit of $1.08 per share on revenue of $7.34 billion. Many analysts are expecting that Apple will beat earnings expectations, but that it may not provide a very optimistic earnings guidance. As stocks are priced based on future expectations, a guidance that does not line up with analyst expectations can result in the stock being severely punished. Here's what a number of popular finance sites and blogs are saying about Apple's upcoming earnings:
Shaw Wu, the top Apple analyst at American Technology Research, is focused on the company's gross margins, which came in surprisingly low last quarter for reasons that were never adequately explained. He's expecting gross margins of 33.5%, slightly higher than the company's 33% guidance. But he notes that lower component prices last quarter did not translate into higher gross margins. "Investors chose to ignore this and gave AAPL a 'free pass,'" he writes. "Given the macro environment, this quarter investors may not be so forgiving." Peter Oppenheimer, Apple's chief financial officer, has been known to send the stock into a tailspin by issuing numbers that are miles below Wall Street's expectations. "We believe AAPL will likely continue its tradition of conservative guidance," writes Wu, with considerable understatement. The question is, how conservative? If it's the usual 9% or 10% below expectations, it shouldn't make much difference. Anything lower could damage the stock. And if Oppenheimer offers guidance that's better than expected, who knows, the stock might actually go up. (Fortune.com - Apple blog )
In an article entitled "Why I'm Shorting Apple Ahead of Earnings" in Seeking Alpha website this week, investor Ben Shuleva ticked off a litany of reasons he expects Apple's share price to get punished after Monday's earnings report, from cutbacks in education budgets that could eat into Apple's back-to-school sales to the way Apple books iPhone revenues over 24 months, an accounting complexity the Street still doesn't understand, no matter how many times Apple explains it. He does start the article by saying - "I will preface this report by stating that I am not bearish on Apple
The enthusiasm for the 3G iPhone should help offset any potential disappointment around guidance; however, we do remain concerned about the consumer spending environment in the US, Apple's largest market," writes Toni Saccanaghi, Jr., of Sanford Bernstein. Andy Zaky of the Bullish Cross blog (a great in depth analysis of the stock) says the hue and cry over its guidance should not impact shares. "Apple's management has a pretty darn good idea of how much it will earn in any given quarter, and guides with bias toward managing expectations," Marketbeat
While Apple's report will garner a lot of attention, what will likely keep investors interested is what the company has to say about the outlook for its current, fiscal fourth quarter, which covers the company's important back-to-school season. Keith Bachman, of BMO Capital Markets, said it is likely that Apple will give fourth-quarter estimates that fall below Wall Street's consensus forecasts. He believes Apple will give a fourth-quarter earnings outlook of $1 a share, with sales of around $7.72 billion, or about 5% higher than its third-quarter sales. However, Bachman said that even though Apple's outlook might at first appear disappointing, "We believe Apple can deliver results roughly in line with current estimates." Bachman said this is because while Apple always sets the bar low for its fourth-quarter, it typically exceeds those estimates, and historically its fourth-quarter earnings and sales end up rising about 10% from the company's third-quarter figures. (Marketwatch.com)
So from the above and all my other reading (and I have read a lot on this stock!), most analysts are bullish on Apple in the medium to long term, but feel the share price will drop in the near term as market expectations are too high. Perhaps I did buy too early after all. However, my horizon is 3-5 years and I will stick to my mantra of "Long term, Long term...investing = patience". In talking to a colleague he even suggested I sell the stock before the earnings on Monday and buy it back the day after. Another strategy I could also use is to buy Apple put options, but for the amount of stock I have this is too expensive. So I think I will sight tight and go along on the Apple roller coaster ride.
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July 21, 2008 11:35 AM
I bought most of the AAPL I have today at around 70, so obviously that portion of my portfolio has done well. I sometimes think I should have sold most of it near 200, but instead I just continue to buy small amounts (e.g., annual IRA contributions) whenever I see weakness in the stock...like right now.
July 21, 2008 2:29 PM
Thanks Chris. Agree with your comments. Here is something interesting I found on CNBC.com today on Apple. It is great advice for longer term Apple investors:
The fact is, Apple has beaten the Street for the past seven straight quarters, and there's every indication that the company will do so again this time around. And yet the stock still languishes. That means the Apple story will once again come down to guidance. Traders love it; investors hate it. If the company doesn't measure up, shares will get crushed even though fundamentals here remain so incredibly robust, and the iPhone as "platform" will tell the Apple story for years to come.
"Today, iPhone only represents about 5 percent of Apple's business, but is growing, and dramatically. "Only" is an interesting word for a product that's "only" been around for a year or so. And the prospects for this product seem so strong. Think about it: on the same day bank customers were lined up outside of IndyMac in Southern California because the bank failed, Apple customers were still lined up, days after 3G's launch, trying to plunk down a couple of hundred bucks for a new cell phone. The dichotomy here is palpable.
At a time when we're all worried about recession and global economic slowdown, Apple is still seeing lines for its gadgets, Intel, Microsoft, IBM and Microsoft are all posting stronger than expected revenue. That bodes well for Apple even in this third quarter, historically Apple's slowest, as shoppers gear up for back-to-school in a couple of months. Economic worries could contribute to a lackluster forecast if shoppers aren't trading up to a new Mac before the school year starts. That's worth watching.
And something else: someone is likely to ask about Steve Jobs' health during the conference call. I wouldn't be surprised if it came up. I would be surprised if Apple offered anything other than what they've been saying all along: that he was being treated for a "bug" of some kind. But anything new on that front bears some focus as well. Right now, I don't see anything that derails Apple as a longer term opportunity for patient investors. Think of the company that way and it almost doesn't matter what Apple reports today. And that's why guidance today is so absolutely key for Apple and investors parking their money in it."
July 22, 2008 10:16 AM
Well, Apple earnings beat estimates. Though their gudiance was lower than analyst expectations so their shares got pummelled. 10% down per my review.
I still like them for the longer term. Their PC share is growing and 3G iphone sales (not part of the earnings) should add a lot of value to the company. Also looks like they have a number of new products coming on line.
The other concern is Steve Job's health. Some estimate he is worth $50 of the share price! Stay well Steve.
July 22, 2008 12:55 PM
It's lost $13 so far today. How long are you going to ride it out?
July 23, 2008 9:40 AM
SB - It was always a longer term investment for me. One year plus. Their numbers were great (did you see how many Macs they sold!) and their future looks great. Only concernt is Steve Jobs. So I am going to hold on for a while. I understand this stock does not fit your value criteria, and I did perhaps buy too early. But confident in my research and outlook.
July 24, 2008 4:17 PM
Andy, thanks for reading my article on ABB. Is it a good time to buy on this drop after earnings? Um, yes and no. Yes because, by my valuations, this stock should be above $33 near it's old high already. No, because this market is psychotic and a company's worth, the company's balance sheet, future business, etc. means nothing. People are selling the good companies with the bad like there's no tomorrow. Let me put it this way though. If there is a tomorrow, and I could only have 1 stock for the next 5 yrs, it would be ABB. The power grid is the foundation upon all modern civilization is built. Even more so now that everything is controlled by computers, from traffic lights to cash registers. I have several articles on ABB on my site, so please stop by as I don't want to retype everything here. I would caution you NOT to buy AECOM. They're a third-rate U.S. construction company with limited capacity and no real proprietary technology.
July 24, 2008 4:25 PM
ABB - Delivering the Power
ABB Articles on Jeffrey's FlyboysFund blog
July 24, 2008 4:29 PM
p.s. if you have questions on AECOM or anything else, email me at fanmail@jeffreylin.net
have a good one.
July 25, 2008 9:27 AM
Thanks Jeff. It was a good analysis of a stock I am looking into, per my comment at your site.