Weekly Wrap : housing relief bill outrage & good reads
My article on the 2008 housing relief bill was recently republished at Seeking Alpha and based on the first response, it elicited some very strong and interesting follow-up comments. Here is the original comment from destroyed by divorce that got the ball rolling.
(From Destroyed by divorce) I have a comment to this ignorant person who thinks anyone in this situation is lower income lower class and basically losers who went after the American dream of home ownership knowing full well they couldn't afford it and are now looking for a free ride - I'm a recently divorced Executive woman with two children who got royally screwed in a divorce, had a husband who was a cocaine addict who sniffed my mortgage up his nose causing me to file chapter 13 to save my home, refinanced to get out of bankruptcy to the tune of a sick rate that will adjust, had to pay tens of thousands of dollars to this fool to get rid of him and my rate adjusts in October - I make very good money and bought my house absolutely able to afford it - should I now lose my home after how hard I worked to get it because you've put me in a category where you think I’m not worthy? HOW DARE YOU! I pay a sick payment every month- isn’t' that my dues? I pay a ton of taxes so where do you get off - all I'd like to do is have my rate renegotiated so I don't lose my home - go have another martini brought to you on your yacht while you judge the rest of the hard working middle class who got into a bad deal!
Can you spot all the contradictions? Also, I don’t like martinis and don’t have a yacht. I wasn’t judging middle class (because I am in this category too), just putting forward my views on the housing bill and why I think it will have limited effect. A number of the respondents to this comment agreed and here is what some of them had to say:
(From globber) But how DARE you make the rest of us try to feel bad that you should keep your HOUSE. A lot of people like to call them "HOMES", but what they really are HOUSES. 'Home is where the heart is' but HOUSES are for sale. Walk away and save yourself the ranting grief in public comment pages. Spare us the rant of your rather sad and disparaging life and look at this from the point of view of the person on the street who may not have a "good money" job who will wind up paying for big mistakes by other people through a government that no longer represents them, but represents the big conglomerates. You'll be lucky if this bail out helps you, but remember, you're just as bad as the coke head because you too are stepping on other Americans, just the way he did to you. Feh.
(From Pity party) To: Destroyed by Divorce: Your statement makes me nauseous. 50% of marriages end in divorce so you have company. I also tasted the flavor of a bitter divorce. But I solved my problem by paying off my consumer debts and saving. I saw the bubble coming and at first felt rage since I had always owned my own house I could not afford to buy at these HIGH prices. yes, I could easily afford high mortgage payments but why throw your money away at a Realtor, and a bank? So, I remarried and changed my life. I will no longer work for the banks. Instead I am working for my family. Instead of a nice comfortable house with all the amenities we moved into a dump on the wrong side of town. I bought a shotgun for protection (cops never come out to the poor areas) and stated serious saving. I save 100% of my after tax income. That money goes to very conservative savings (not really investment grade -I don't want banks or wall street to steal from, me again). So beans and rice, freezing winters and sweltering summers. We have refrigerated air and heat, but I don't want my money going to utilities that lobby for higher prices. No more restaurants or entertainment. No cable TV, actually NO TV---too many advertisements for things I DO NOT WANT TO BUY.
My wife saves 80% of her income that is not taxed. I have two jobs and my wife has three jobs. IO learned that if you are not working, you tend to spend money. SO I keep working AT ANY JOB, whether minimum wage or as a consultant. I am never too proud to work an honest job. Neither of us has a high salary. In fact, our gross income is average for our blue collar neighborhood. but wait! Are we poor? Hell no! She still drives her old car and I also drive my old car. We nickel and dime everything. We have a small vegetable garden and we have both learned to cook and garden. I am still wearing clothes I bought 12 years ago. No frivolous expenses! We prepay all recurring bills rent, gas and electric. I recently ran a credit check and we HAVE NO FICO SCORE. All there was a SSN DOB and street address. None of my paid off house mortgages (four) showed up on the credit reports. None of my wife’s old mortgages showed up on her report. No worry about identity theft here! Well we have saved over $600,000 CASH all taxes paid for our dream house---and guess what?
I blame Realtors, bankers and greed. I AM NOW STARTING TO ENJOY THE fruits of LAST TEN YEARS OF FRUGALITY. We do what we want---no plastic---when we want and how we want. I find that people start giving us stuff--- because IF YOU DO NOT NEEED IT---IT HAS
You can read the remainder of the 30 plus comments here.
Moving on. Here are some articles from my RSS and Blogroll that caught my eye this week. Good reads all of them.
Other appearances this week:
- Squawkfox hosted the carnival of personal finance and included my article on the 2008 Housing Relief Bill - this article was picked up at a few sources, clearly a hot topic!
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August 11, 2008 2:47 PM
Great article.
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